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How about adding a new category called something like “Shipping” or “ship propulsion.” I can’t think of a good name… @tallakt, @Rodread and others?
If someone wanted to start a wiki on ship propulsion then for example that could be pinned so it was easily findable. There have also already been plenty of topics on this, so I can move those to there as well.
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This page looks to be updated, being more or less recent since several references date from 2020 or even 2022.
A roadmap of the AWE sector has been described in a White Paper by BVG Associates in 2022. It shows that about 1 GW could be deployed by the early 2030s and several hundred GW by 2050[13]
And the advantages compared to current tower wind turbines are well stated, but not the disadvantages. Maybe the downsides don’t exist. If wind turbines are prosperous, unlike AWES, It must be a matter of luck.
The first companies have started commercialising their systems.
How many units have been sold, at what price, and what annual production do they generate, or rather how many hours in a row did they work?
In the meantime, Kitewinder’s Kiwee was the only AWES marketed having flying during 132 continuous hours. It can produce 200 W.
Many AWE pages have been published in different forms (patents, publications, wikis, etc.). What if we limited ourselves to the AWES marketed?
Some AWE ideas:
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A new way to achieve AWE by carrying wind turbine blades through the air. All that remains is to rotate them during the flight.
It reminds me of Christophe Verna ideas Verna voile de traction libre auto portée prototype
Not to be taken too seriously…
“Green shipping” using “Ground Effect” on
Another future failure, masquerading as “the next big thing”. Wing in ground effect -like vertical-axis turbines, one more very old, already mostly disproven idea, as far as actual usefulness. Not that I don’t like it - not that it isn’t sexy, but after all these years, where is one in operation today? I’d say what we can gather from the AWE forum lately is nobody has any solutions, no new ideas, and there is basically nothing going on in AWE anymore, not even any remotely hopeful prospects recently. :O…
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Advanced Kite Networks is now a proven AWE way, with the help of DeepSeek, to power the world. No need for prototypes and all the superfluous stuff: just proclaim it and use AI as an echo chamber.
You also know that certain projects have made it possible to achieve around 100 kW. For how long? In a commercially useful way? No one cares.
As for my personal research, it turns out that the more I advance, the more the solutions I hope for turn out to be nonviable: for example parasails with high drag coefficients but which melt as soon as the wind speed increases, or even inflatable profiles whose effectiveness is reduced as soon as the real or apparent wind increases.
AWE will remain the energy of the future until a spark of intelligence comes to turn everything upside down.
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Hi Pierre: At least you actually build and try ideas, and admit when you are not convinced of their efficacy. I think you’ve built and tried more AWE ideas than anyone else, worldwide, actually.
As far as “knowing” any project made over 100 kW, many people also thought they “knew” the same source had built “a factory” selling AWE systems worldwide, yet we see no evidence of this so many years later.
I could show you recent clickbait articles and videos, probably “A.I.”-generated, still making those same outdated claims, but I’ll spare you the humor.
Yep I’d second that
@PierreB champion du monde at AWES building
For me, I do have a design which I believe is viable for a few different usages [The Pyramid]. I am not looking for wacky new ideas, rather whats necessary now is probably working systems at smaller scale, to enable iterative development.
I do think a few designs could work. TRPT hovering for sure, single tether single kite bounding probably [yoyo]. Maybe high altitude drag bounding. Maybe dancing kites with two kites.
Ideas are here, working implementations still missing
I might agree, maybe in a different order, maybe “high altitude drag bounding” in first.
This would suggest that the architectures would be different depending on the altitudes targeted, which would be a first for a discipline (AWE) if it hatches in earnest. Indeed, we are more used to a single predominant architecture, for example HAWT for onshore or offshore wind power.
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