I will just say this: His repeated lies that I was never censored in the old forum is easily revealed in my email box, with hundreds of excruciatingly-long discussions with Joe, Dave, and even Rod about why my messages had been deleted. The emails are so long and disjointed that even trying to cut-paste them here is almost impossible. Without spending all day going thru these messages, here’s just one excerpt where Joe Faust “explains” why a message of mine was deleted - it was deleted because I had pointed out one more lie from you-know-who:
"Doug,
Without admission by author, intention to deceive cannot be determined without the all-knowing Being report. For such reason polite technical communities do not spend time getting into the business of proving intention to deceive or non-intention to deceive. Technical communities may find many errors here and there without having to bother with getting into playing the role of an all-knowing Being. You seem to press the matter: it seems to me that you are wanting some mere human to play the role of an all-knowing Being for judging peoples’ intention; such would be asking for something that cannot occur. Even lie detectors after some expressed writing has a possibility of error. The practical result for the AWES forum: ever pressing to declare that people are intending to deceive others in the forum is taken as against the polity of the forum and destructive of the purpose of moving forward on RAD. "
The lie in this case was you-know-who declaring that the stoppage of the Altaeros project was “just a delay”, which can now be seen as a false statement, intentional because he had no evidence of that, but was just making it up.
By the way “RAD” was Joe’s acronym for “Rapid Airborne Wind Energy Development”. (Which was one more inaccurate statement (lie?), since there is nothing “rapid” about AWE development.) One thing I did learn from these exchanges was how people can lie endlessly, by simply redefining words.
Here’s another excerpt from an email from Joe:
“Meanwhile I am setting your membership to “No Posting” status; this means that messages won’t reach the Messages and won’t reach the “Pending messages”.”
Here’s another excerpt of that same email from Joe:
“Again, Doug, your posting ban has zero to do with the potential AWE tech content.”
Here’s another:
“Doug, your timing is not respectful. Your moderation went in stages. The final stage overcomes the earlier stages. No matter what you send–you never gave me permission to block your anti-policy matter-- in the active contemporary stage will not be forwarded. How to have you back in the living room directly has not known solution at this time; since you did not allow blocking your anti-policy matter, moderation went the final stage of banning.”
And here’s one from Rod, who had suddenly “gained” a position as “moderator” explaining why HE had also censored me on the old forum.
" I’m loathed to do this as you take up plenty of time already Doug.
Like the kids aren’t enough a distraction … You dick around too much on the forum.
For an undecided time you’re on moderation.
None of your gip and no gripe.
We all get that Dave S is a self inflated twazok on a holier than thou trip and needs reeling in.
(probably syphilis)
We all only have 24 hrs in the day.
Rod Read
Windswept and Interesting Limited
15a Aiginis
Isle of Lewis
UK
HS2 0PB
When Rod decided he should be a moderator of the old forum and start banning posts, was when I realized he was hopeless, and my opinion of him dropped precipitously.
If anyone were to read through these ridiculous and super-complicated series of emails between me, you-know-who, Joe Faust, Rod, Pierre, Wayne German, etc., they would assume the “conversation” belonged in a mental hospital. All it consists of are Pierre and me pointing out all the lies of the liars, mostly you-know-who, and long, meandering, insane-sounding “reasons” given by Joe why I was censored, my messages deleted, etc., and statements of you-know-who’s impending grandeur and all of his vast accomplishments-of-the-future.
A lot of them I happened to notice were repetitive, insistent bragging by you-know-who about the huge significance of his attachment of a Seiko self-winding watch to a kite, as an effective airborne wind energy device, if that gives any indication of the level of absurdity involved.
It was amazing to see a technical discussion degenerate into long philosophical diatribes from Joe about how we couldn’t “prove” that inaccurate statements from you-know-who were just outright lies.
And it’s amazing now to see you-know-who STILL claiming I was never censored on the old forum, when me being censored was in fact probably the main theme of the old forum!
When it comes to my “idiots, idiots, idiots” description, (starting when I met so many at the first “High Altitude Wind Energy Conference” in 2009), of many, if not most, of the people drawn to pursuing AWE, it only gets worse when we get to the people who can’t really DO anything in wind energy but nonetheless feel compelled to run supposedly open “forums” which are actually meant to give a voice predominantly to the people who run them, where they can promote their own ignorance and confusion, endless lies, and outright insanity.
What they can’t handle are facts of any kind. They would rather argue for weeks on end whether one of their lies could be defined as a lie or not a lie, or whether someone was censored and why, than discuss anything meaningful because they have nothing meaningful to say. This was true in the old forum, and remains true here - just look at this nonsense Windy has just published here! OMG!
Like I said recently, Windy against you-know-who is like an unstoppable force against an immoveable object - kind of funny to read, if you have the time to waste, but sad in that you just have to wonder who is the most insane. 