Hi Doug,
You are stating truths about AWE. However, neither you nor I are experts in EVTOL. Let’s allow the experts in commercial aviation to speak on this matter.
For AWE, the first problem is to start producing wind energy. When an AWES fails due to overspeed, it means that progress has been made. However, it may be that AWE does not meet this preliminary requirement.
Is this thread on EVTOL or VITRIOL?
That was ̶w̶a̶r̶m̶ ̶, p̶r̶o̶d̶u̶c̶t̶i̶v̶e̶ a̶n̶d̶ ̶e̶n̶c̶o̶u̶r̶a̶g̶i̶n̶g̶ Doug
No, not according to sentiment analysis I ran on it, it wasn’t
That was unnecessary personal attack.
Not the - keep it technical and competent - result my message called for.
You’re being a £$%"& and making this forum unpleasant, unproductive, irrelevant and a waste of time.
Just checking
Are you able to read, keep in mind and critically assess your own writing?
That rant was so self conflicting and illogical… So many questions
What are you hoping to achieve? Are you trying to contribute anything ?
As for me
Am I really doing this for the selfies, thumbs on posts and money?
Your “Real Wind” credentials - oh aye - here we go again.
The “Real Wind” folks in offices, on farm sites, at conferences and trade shows, behind the gov innovation budgets, in the universities and workshops whom I’ve had a cuppa with and shown my work to, are like - Hey wow, that’s fu-kin cool.
Sure I’m idealistic, optimistic and naive - I agree You have to be to try something so new and audacious - I’m not here to BS investors, this is hard to do, nor am I here to just exit a company - I’m doing this (And other things) because I believe the data from millions of scientists which says we should be trying to clean up energy systems. This is far from hero worship. You self proclaim to be an Expert, wow Doug, just wow
I agree media and big company investors all want you to say their thing - sing their song their way. Very hard to work with.
And my projects in AWES
No in the timescales I’d have hoped for and certainly in part due to my lack of knowledge, expertise and understanding my project has not reached 10kW yet (A goal set by an energy company sponsor - I wanted to go to 3 first to learn and scale more organically)
Is that failing? No. We planned, tested and shared new data so GTF
Is a reliable 10kW Kite Turbine impossible because of what my small effort has shown? no
Is it worth still trying ? yes
Would a technology which made EVTOL, fast, efficient, affordable, reliable, safe be worth it? Yes. Is it possible ooooh very hard to say yes yet. But we have identified a lot of flaws with known approaches and methods.
Can that be compared to AWES - Yeah kinda - but it is different
Weirdly - overspeed has not killed any of my prototypes yet, serious lack of control at high speeds yes, parts thrown at high speed yes, overspeed , as in centripetal disassembly ? no I don’t think so.
Not bothered to reply to the rest of your grim chat Doug
How about , maybe , Just leave the forum if you hate AWES and see no useful future for it.
Also If you would like to make your rage more effective you’re going to need to put more effort in than trolling out your tired tropes. And try to use logic.
Oh and finishing with a weak smiling emoji to make it seem nice 
Hi Doug,
The author is Michael Barnard. He is also the author of some AWE articles (Airborne Wind Energy: It's All Platypuses Instead Of Cheetahs - CleanTechnica) discussed on Barnard’s predictions - Analysis / Industry and Market Analysis - AWESystems Forum.
And as you know, Mike Barnard does not favor hydrogen:
Concerning EVTOL (since this topic is dedicated to it), see also other sources, for exemple on EVTOL drones to carry people - Lounge - AWESystems Forum.