Moderation wents nuts over Cosine Gain, Analytic Philosophy, and the best knot expertise. That’s the real noise part.
This is not about “play nice with other kids”, but about destructive mis-moderation of sound AWE technical content. AWE itself is for the kids, who don’t need anonymous moderation either.
Dave spam twitter if you want to post endless trolling or weakly associated AWES conspiracy chat.
This is a forum for people interested developing AWES.
No Rod, my role is to provide knowledge “for people interested in developing AWES”.
Better Knot content is not spam. Kite Cosine Functions topic is not trolling. Twitter is not where Kite-related Analytic Philosophy is discussed.
This is the correct place for “questions and complaints about moderation”.
I have a complaint about moderation.
We’re not strict enough.
The rubbish around the valuable knot data in your posts was spam @kitefreak
https://forum.awesystems.info/t/air-as-the-main-structural-element/942/9
I’m considering splitting this recent exchange from the topic if no answer to this is given:
And answer to this could be “I can’t provide examples.” I also fail to see a relevant use case.
Some comments should perhaps also be moderated out of principle:
Let’s not hope we are trying to accelerate kites to relativistic speeds in our, or any, atmosphere.
Windy Skies,
Consider revealing just who you are to be constantly messing up worthy technical content.
If you insist on moving my posts from intended topics, they must be deleted in protest. Your moderation is not helpful. Try and add to the discussion, not stop it.
Actually, AWE is highly relativistic due to the acceleration of gravity. That is why the lemniscate in the kite window is flattened.
This is really wonderful stuff for anyone who has done the homework. A moving kite does have a bit more mass, even if this does not interest everyone.
Perhaps that is still a bit too premature.
This is the topic: Patent list It asks for list(s) of patents related to AWE or kites — I’ll say individual links to patents are okay too. Your post is not that, so it is off-topic.
I’ll say after some more patent lists are posted it’s okay to wander a bit from the topic of the thread, but I’d like to keep the topic narrowly focused for now.
I’ll hide the topic until this is resolved.
Yes.
I’ll hide the topic until this is resolved.
Windy Skies,
Its clear that you know almost nothing about AWE, or engineering generally, nor how new technical ideas can emerge without previous citation. The original reference is precious, not trash for you to take out.
You probably have no idea whether soft kites are subject to brittle aeroelastic failure, or that I am expert enough to be allowed an opinion without censorship.
You clearly have no idea if I actually wrote an incorrect statement about Titanium tethers, but you hide the content as if you did.
Pierre complained that he does not support your censorship in his name, but you continue to do it.
Just who you are, to intend never to be known, while being a troll with moderation power over harder working better informed contributors, is surely a sad case.
The topic covering possible applications of “heat-kites” is valuable, and should not be hidden by Windy Skies with Doug as a pretext.
Heat resistant kites can serve in wildfire-fighting and volcanology, as two active topics of study.
Wayne German’s space-tether kite ideas are worth sharing. Doug’s hate for these ideas is irrelevant.
Windy Skies is incredibly inept at nurturing open intellectual discussion. Anonymous censorship is not helpful.
In Sweden, he would be a criminal-
The new topic on soft kites not being subject to classic aeroelastic failure has been wrongly hidden. The reference shows rigid wings suffer from cracking up by aeroelastic failure. Anyone knowledgeable about kites can attest that soft kites are not brittle, but resilient.
Any new AWE idea or insight is at risk under Windy Skies profoundly destructive moderation. Windy Skies has proven to have no AWE engineering insight, but an obsession with hiding information.
No one even knows who this troubled person is, or why they cannot be known openly. They do not add anything on this forum of serious value.
After closer inspection, I’ll unhide the topic for now. It is obvious that a soft wing does not suffer from the mentioned problem a rigid kite has. The claim that therefore soft wings are the solution I consider soapboxing, and therefore the topic overall also, but it also shares some research.
This decision is tenuous. A better topic would have probably been a thorough summary, with references provided, of all the ways rigid wings are bad. Then you have the criticism contained in one topic instead of multiple topics essentially saying the same thing.
I consider soapboxing to be bad because you don’t want to start from a preconceived position – that rigid wings are bad – and then cherry-picking data to support your position. That’s not how science works.
Dear Windy Skies, whoever you are:
I was replying, specifically, to Dave Santos, regarding his statement that his buddy, Wayne German, was “Director” of, oh, what was it, “Boeing’s Flight Research Institute”? Thanks to your weird compulsion toward censorship, I can’t even find the topic you’re referring to. This is one main reason I have pretty much stopped visiting this website. It seems that it is run by what some call “True-Believers”, where the moderators are not the least bit interested in actual FACTS, and instead seem fixated on watering down any actual discourse, eliminating any factual content.
I decided to come back and just check this forum again, only to find literally almost every recent topic with a big red K at the end. Predictably, you guys have let my old sparring partner, Dave Santos, completely dominate your forum. You don’t care about facts. I actually don’t understand what you do care about.
Well, click on any topic, and there is nothing but Dave Santos, who, in my opinion, is spewing nonstop falsehoods. As I’ve long-stated, he seems to be able to fit more falsehoods into a single sentence than you could debunk if you took all day. An amazing talent, which you naive true-believers do not seem to see, as obvious as it is to me.
For example this endless “worship” of his friend Wayne, by not only Santos, but his partner-in-crime Joe Faust (Hey don’t get your panties in a bunch, it’s just a harmless expression).
All I have to do is read any single sentence he writes, find the first untrue item, aand reply to it, and somehow it is ME who gets “censored”. Why don’t YOU MODERATORS try doing some fact-checking? Why is it up to ME to actually READ what is written by the people I see as endless purveyors of false facts, and check their veracity? Why can’t YOU, if you think your role as “moderator” is so useful, try checking on a fact or two?
OK so, like I said in my original post which I now cannot even find the topic of, I did a little checking on Wayne’s supposed involvement with Boeing, and found this from 2012:
And I found the following comment at the end from “Wayne German”:
“I was a project leader at the flight research institute when it was a non-profit offshoot of Boeing at the Museum of Flight in Seattle Washington. While there I discovered a way that it would be possible to fly without fuel by tacking in air only — what I call airSailing among a select few that I have discussed it with so far. I also know how to develop air traffic controlling far better using satellite modems. Two aircraft literally crashed overhead and fell on my street here in Newberg Oregon. The crash was far more the responsibility of the FAA for not using this better and cheaper technology rather than trying to monitor aircraft 35 miles away and over hills etc. There is a lot more that I would like to discuss. Perhaps we should discuss via Webex since it is encripted. Thanks. P.S. I was also the one person at Intel to whom all questions were eventually escalated to and I was the most senior software engineer at Freightliner and I was Intel’s technical liaison to the Ford and the Bausch Motor Company. I will reply with a resume and white paper when you suggest how we should do it and keep our discussion confidential. Thanks, Wayne German”
Reading Wayne’s own words, we find what Santos said WAS WRONG. Rather than being “The Director” he only claims to have been “a project leader”. OK? Maybe an unpaid volunteer? You don’t hear about any actual project, do you? So one more false claim from Santos, documented.
Next Santos was trying to equivocate his buddy Wayne with Dr. Paul McCready and Burt Rutan, people who really were directors? Now if Wayne were really in the same category as these two famous aviation personalities who are at least see as luminaries, don’t you think you’d have heard of him from somewhere besides Dave Santos’ and Joe Faust’s bragging self-promotional propaganda, where they tend to worship each other and Wayne, in a self-congratulatory circle (mutual-admiration society)? Everyone knows who Burt Rutan and Paul McReady are, right? But look up Wayne German and all you find is himself and Joe and Dave bragging about his supposed accomplishments. I don’t find anything else about him. Hmmmm.
It is telling to read Wayne’s “comment” in the above article. It reads like an extension of Wayne’s attempt to dominate the first AWE meeting in 2009: He goes completely off-topic from the article and starts bragging about his idea of two mutually-tethered wings being theoretically able to fly without fuel, as though:
I won’t come as a surprise to you that I am in favor of slightly more active moderation so that no one person dominates the conversation. It was in that spirit that I hid the topic Titanium vs Tungsten Tethers You say it is spreading misinformation so hiding it is a way of privately letting each side present their arguments and sources without wasting the rest of the visitors’ time with stuff that’s irrelevant to them. If really it turns out the topic is spreading misinformation it can stay hidden.
Personally I don’t care for that topic as I don’t see the relevance to AWE.
That quickly becomes a shitty volunteer part-time job. I’m sure we all have better things to do than fact-checking every little thing someone on the internet claims. Let’s hope some new rules will put more of the burden of the fact-checking on the poster themselves, like it should be.
Windy skies continues to censor technical content from anonymous moderation authority.
The problem is only growing worse.
This pathetic topic is how Windy Skies sees AWE, not as an urgent technical quest, but as an excuse to impose a low level of conceptual merit.
Doug is wrong about who dominates here. The Moderators do, and many worthy postings are trashed under this wrongful domination.
On the Old Forum, technical content predominated. Moderation was not abusive.
Doug did not even say which technical claims in the heat-kite topic were false. Windy Skies could fact-check if he did, rather than censor wrongly.