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Nice suggestion, though mainly using Tinkercad. As for achieving something might want to dig through early posts. To a certain proposed generator? Usually using tubes and coils and fluid magnets.

Got much to consider. Going forward the biggest one is shatter and impact resistant magnets. If I go the solid route? There is an demo over on my Yt. Just try to find the best suppliers. To I can assemble for a test run? Atm its air core windings/ slinky type windings? But it finding suppliers. I can get most of what I want from diy shops. Just the specialist bits is another story?

Goggle not the best friend in that regards. Sometimes best to stick my neck out and ask the big boys how it done? What I don’t like about coil shopping is the fail to mention internal dia. Outside is well documented however internal dia. Not so much?

As reasons for putting up one magnet supplier was to see how many the Awes members know of? I don’t think the customer magnets are out of reach? But always looking for the best price? As it goes trying to get the best value for money, to get the most out of each component and sub assemblies. So far the £500 target looks to be on track. Might even have multiple units? If what the guy was say was true? If I drop £100 on the magnets? I will get enough bulk to make the first 10. Hdpe tube is cheap enough. Plus connectors. Plus whatever coil supply I can find? With the remaining budget? I don’t suspect miracles? But all pointer welcome?

Hi Jason: There are so many magnet suppliers out there it boggles the mind. Most are in China, Hong Kong, etc., and most are happy to make a custom design for you, but it’s always good to see if something already in production would fit your requirements. If you decide on a supplier, there is no need to get into CAD as long as you can articulate the dimensions in an understandable way. A rough sketch with dimensions should suffice. They will make their own CAD model or otherwise put your design into production. The key is just to make your requirements understandable.

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Thanks,
While the thought crossed my mind? liquid magnets I reminded of and experiment using molten sodium salt. Where they were conducting experiments it the earth core? I was wondering if in some small scale this could be conducted in reverse? To generate electricity? Usually a polarised fluid?

Uncertain how adaptable for awes this would be? But as far as I understand it they can generate vast quantities of electricity? Just by mimicking magnetohydrodynamic property found in the core of planets. It must be possible to build a torus that does that? The thing is finding the right sort of polarised fluid that can operate at low temperatures? Overcoming the need for thermal coating, Temperature control system and many other bulk components?
My general thinking is something with a ion density strong enough the generate electricity when passing coils? Just depends on the metal solution used? And respective charges? My brain thinkings magnesium lithium and phosphorus mix up something? Chlorine an fluorine get mentioned a lot as ion compounds.just depends of the mix? Magnesium chloride and fluoride are good ionic compounds. I know phosphorus is quite active due to the electron shells. As phosphate, it forms the spine to dna. Lithium is in high demand in ion batteries. as far I know lithium salt make easy soluble solution. So it would just be a case of working out which solution is best?

It should be easy enough to work out find the melting point of HDPE pipe and work back from that? I be happy to outsource where required? Just have a small royalty. Per unit sold. I know it possible to part source and build. For me it knowing the market? If I can find a stable a reliable supplier? Then a manufacturing hub? Who can do the bits I struggle with? I reckon there might be a whole other industry waiting? Things can be done under license. Just something I’m extremely fresh too. It like head to the big city to the biggest sweets and treats shop and being spoiled for choice?

Basic specs:
2500mm dia. ring assembly. But really it can be made to any length.
Obvious the internal bore of the pipe will govern magnet size and fluid volume?
Coils:
Must slide on and off? So internal dia. Can’t be smaller than the pipes bore. It why a continuous slinky might work? But find the manufacturer that does that? In require sizes so far has been a challenge? Then coils length and spacing on galileos ratio.
Leaving open to be connected in series or parallel.
In my case looking at 25mm internal dia. With a coil thickness of 10mm. (however design is completely adaptable to available materials) Flat wound air cores should do the trick? Even looked at hifi coils? Then it respective connectors that match pipe bore. Ideally would love to use the coils as connectors? Makes the design far easier to assemble and ship. I know of about 3 suppliers uk? I usually go with the one that has the least stringent cookies policy? The ones that allowed you to determine your cookie preference? As long as I can get the parts the rest is easy? Then it can go into production no problem. Then It just working from the shadows pulling strings if and when required? Initial hurdle. If anyone of the companies can do custom orders? Even better!

I was half hope to source for as near by as I can? I suspect that many of the bit migh already come from China one way or another? Not to say a British firm wouldn’t be able to do it in their own? Often if it getting from source that the hardest part? Sign post are always a welcome sight.

Local industry support my kind of thing. You thing the country that help aid the industry revolution would have something left? Something easy to get in contact with? The few have rung are quite good to get along with. The the coils are going to be a challenge all in themselves. Might just have to bulk up? As previously mentioned first 10 Will be the challenge before throwing it out there? Pointer are most welcome.

Hi Jason - I forgot to mention pretty much all supermagnet suppliers are in some version of China. Anyone else is probably a reseller of Chinese-produced magnets. We have a company here in Mountain Pass, California (on the way to Las Vegas) called MP materials, that produces 15% of all rare earth concentrate in the world, but they ship it to China for refining and making magnets. It’s a sad situation, but a main byproduct or really an unwanted adulterant is radioactive thorium, and rare earths are notoriously messy and toxic to refine, so we let the Chinese handle it, but that means we’re dependent on them. It is considered to be a problem and we always hear talk of bringing the industry of producing supermagnets here, but it never happens.

I was involved in sales of audio equipment - mostly speakers. We used to carry Acoustic Studio Monitors, and they claimed to incorporate technology from the U.S. Space Program, which was called “ferrofluid”, which I think was just some liquid with suspended magnetic particles. Anyway we always used to joke about the claim that they speakers were so great because of the space program. I think there are some Youtube videos about tricks with ferrofluid.
When manufacturing my generators, I formerly used an expensive aerospace adhesive, with a limited shelf life, to glue the magnets in place on the rotor. Well, one day my adhesive had gone bad and I thought: “Why not just use JB-Weld?” JB-Weld is epoxy with suspended microscopic iron or steel particles in it. It’s interesting to see how it slowly flows around magnets like it has a life of its own. But my observation is you are looking at so many possibilities, I think maybe you are casting your net a little too wide. At some point you have to get to a point where you are dealing with “knowns” and maybe one or two unknowns, but not all unknowns. Anyway with regard to magnets, chances are very high that any local supplier offering custom shapes to your design will be ordering them from China, just basically acting as a middleman. Not that there is anything wrong with that - could be an easy way to get magnets made. To bad you are not here. I have boxes and boxes of supermagnets of all shapes and sizes. I need to get busy and churn out some more whacky wind devices!

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Casting my own magnets? Well there an idea! I have some steel shot but need a easy way to magnetise it? Jb weld in iron filling might do the job? An engineer favourite that jb weld. Love world over by model makers. I brought a ton of steel shot a while back never got round to making the bearings. The 4.5mm 1500 balls. Were £6 from the gun shop. I’d have to check but the bigger shot Think it’s 12-15mm? though I can’t remember exactly might of been 12mm? Iron filling are easy enough to acquire so Is jb weld from screw fix. Kingfisher group. Which also owns b&q over here.
I would ask how much it would cost to ship them magnets from the sunny coast? Just need to be 16-18mm dia. If you have them great? Spherical and oval are good. Just need to fit into the arc or the tube once assembled the oval magnets must be able to flow the bends in the tube. Happy to strike a deal in P.M. as it gets the bird of the ground. Don’t need many’s pieces just enough to get things started? My thinking is batches of 5-10 pieces going around the raceway? Don’t mind either way might get back hold of e-magnetics? Just to see what the bulk price is like?

I have a look a ferrofuid speaker on yt. As for the fluid magnets or ionic solution? I agree baby steps. One thing at a time, I had a mid to where such devices could end up? Draupnir or halo? I wouldn’t be surprised if nasa would use it as a stablizer or a means of generation electricity out in the dear yonder of the black abyss. As long as it rotates? Magnetohydrodynamic forces are observed? It can be a leap up kardashev scale? once built? that would be top SPAWES. Earth orbital rings prehaps? With straying to far towards the Sifi end? Astra porta? Or star travel? Based on quantum entanglement? Any distance? any time? As the sciences goes?

Would love to have a crack at it? But I know it something that can’t be achieved alone. Yes and I did just propose a starship with a molten core capable of jumping through space time? As always baby steps and leave a little for someone else to follow up on? If you like to send me the magnets?cool! Don’t forget to p.m first?

Earth to Jason:
You are now too far out in orbit, and your instructions are to land immediately! Here on the surface, we’ll prepare for splashdown! Godspeed on your re-entry! :slight_smile:

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American support for AWES
https://twitter.com/housesciencegop/status/1600588606573318146?s=20&t=5Kv2s2tEFDfetja2t07h7Q

Wind energy is an important part of an all of the above U.S. energy strategy. Yesterday,
@TXRandy14
and
@RepBowman
introduced the #bipartisan Airborne Wind Energy Research and Development Act to accelerate airborne wind energy generation.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/9432/all-info

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Hello! ground control, orders received and understood! Just going to have to sling shot round a comet and make way way home. It pretty in the outer solar system. where? the ice twinkles like diamonds! I will suspend the hunt for major Tom. Might not need to make a splash down? if the quantum teleporter works! Things been on the fritz for week! I have plenty of disassociate samples the lab can toy with. Even some funky new hyper matter. Only a few hundred particles. It seems like matter anti matter reactions might be able to harmonise?

Should be home in a single manoeuvre. Provided I’m not lost in the next asteroid storm. Ort cloud very pretty shame to turn back? But hey oh it the way to go!

Don’t give us the UK chat when shit like this happens
Not a F*****g hope that S%%t like this would get permitting North of Hadrians wall.
Anyone for Brexit darling
Don’t dare try to help me with my anger issues
I’m quite happy with my triggering

Yeah in these times it is hard for Europeans to cope with the abrupt change in available fossile fuels. Im not going to spend any effort to put down any short term efforts to cope. Of course I would rather see renewable. I am sure the UK will get there soon.

Also coming from across the pond after four (?) years of Trump reign, putting down a single coal plant seems a bit novel to me
 what you don’t have your own bad conciounces over there?

I know Norway isnt exactly trailblazing sustainable climate change either. Lets rather focus on what we can do than what is done wrong

As of 2020, 350 coal-fired power plants are under construction. They include seven in South Korea, 13 in Japan, 52 in India, and 184 in China with the rest underway in other parts of the world.

China is also building and financing hundreds of other coal-fired power plants in countries such as Turkey, Vietnam, Indonesia, Philippines, Egypt, and Bangladesh.

Are you then insinuating that this is a problem? That would mean we are converging in our world view


Former fusion scientist on why we won’t have fusion power by 2040

Towards the end this also talks about the growth and success of Zipline.

Drone Delivery Was Supposed to be the Future. What Went Wrong?

Zipline - This delivery tech is “the closest thing to teleportation” | Freethink

A day at a Zipline Distribution Center

Hi Windy:
I must have missed the Zipline part, but I’ve never had faith in the old-fashioned Tokamak approach. It seems like a lot of trouble, just to boil water to run a steam engine. My favored approach is this one from Helion, which runs more like an electromagnetic diesel engine:

Meanwhile, coal, being technically the greenest energy source, seems to be expanding worldwide. Turns out “green” (more vegetation) is not really what anyone meant, since more CO2 is the essential greening ingredient. We’re trying to make sure the Earth remains in an ice-age, as that is responsible for our emergence.

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And to think that some time ago France was the leader in civil nuclear power. From protest to protest (always the same ones) since Superphénix, in a context of abandoning its industries, France finally gave up its leadership by lowering its nuclear percentage, which is still significant.

For those interested in greenhouse gas emission limits, nuclear energy is incomparable, except for hydroelectricity which is naturally limited by the presence of mountains (see Norway and Quebec).

(gCO₂eq/kWh) France 144 g; Denmark West 457 g; Germany 683 g