Comparison between unnetworked and networked AWES

Recently, a discussion arose about artificial intelligence (AI) as a tool for comparative prospecting between unnetworked AWES and networked AWES.

I am citing a few elements from the emailed content.

From Dave Santos (@kitefreak):

Prompt 1:
“Consider from first principles a synthesis of Bifurcation Theory and Network Theory with regard to scaling and statistical stability of dynamical mechanical systems composed of similar units.”
[Gem Response]

Prompt 2:
“Apply this conceptual synthesis to theoretic Airborne Wind Energy System (AWES) design that can be ordered either as a loose collection of unnetworked unit-kites or a many-connected collection networked unit-kites, much as draft animals many be networked into teams or not. Consider stability, control, density, and scalability between these two AWES orderings, unnetworked and networked. Make a recommendation for industrial scale AWES.”
[Gem Response]
=== Gemini 2.5 Pro ===

[emphasis below added by the AI model, no human editing]

Applying the synthesis of Bifurcation and Network Theory to Airborne Wind Energy Systems (AWES) design, the networked collection of unit-kites is unequivocally the superior architecture for industrial-scale deployment. A loose collection of unnetworked kites is fundamentally limited and inefficient, while a networked system, despite its complexity, offers a clear path to high-density, scalable power generation.


## Unnetworked AWES: A Collection of Individuals

An unnetworked AWES is a system of N independent kites, each with its own ground station and control system. From a network perspective, this is a graph with N nodes and zero edges.

  • Stability: The stability of the collection is simply the statistical sum of the stability of each individual kite. A failure or bifurcation (e.g., a stall or sudden loss of control) in one kite is an isolated event. This provides robustness against cascading failures, as one kite falling from the sky does not mechanically pull others down. However, there is no mechanism for mutual stabilization; the kites cannot help each other counteract localized turbulence or perturbations. Each unit must be robust enough to handle the worst-case scenario on its own.
  • Control: Control is massively parallel. While this seems simple, it is incredibly inefficient. Each of the N kites requires its own control hardware, software, and ground footprint. The primary control challenge becomes one of deconfliction and airspace management—preventing N independent, high-speed objects from colliding—rather than optimizing the collective.
  • Density: The power density is extremely low. Due to the risk of collision, each unnetworked kite requires a massive, exclusive volume of airspace in which to operate. This “packing problem” severely limits the number of kites that can be deployed in a given area, making the land and airspace requirements for a utility-scale power plant enormous and impractical.
  • Scalability: Scalability is poor. To double the power output, you must double the number of independent systems—doubling the ground stations, control systems, and required airspace. This linear scaling offers no economy of scale and quickly becomes logistically and economically untenable.

## Networked AWES: A Coordinated Collective

A networked AWES connects the unit-kites, either physically through tethers or through a shared main structure, forming a single, large, coupled dynamical system. This is a network with N nodes and a defined set of edges, creating a specific topology (e.g., a line, grid, or V-formation).

  • Stability: The networked system has the potential for far greater collective stability. The network connections act as dampers, averaging out localized wind gusts and turbulence across the entire structure. A perturbation affecting one kite can be stabilized by its neighbors. From a bifurcation standpoint, the network’s coupling creates new, stable collective flight modes that are more robust than those available to an individual kite. The engineering challenge shifts from making each kite independently failsafe to designing a network topology that is resilient to the propagation of instabilities, preventing cascading failures.
  • Control: The control problem is transformed from managing N individuals to piloting one collective entity. While the control algorithms are more complex—requiring an understanding of the system’s emergent behavior—the infrastructure is vastly simplified, potentially requiring only a single, powerful ground station. The network structure itself becomes a control parameter, allowing the system’s shape to be reconfigured to optimize power generation in different wind conditions.
  • Density: Power density is the most significant advantage and is exceptionally high. Because the kites move in a coordinated, predictable formation, the required safety separation between them is minimal. This allows for a tightly packed arrangement, maximizing the energy extraction per unit of airspace and drastically reducing the ground footprint of the power plant.
  • Scalability: Scalability is excellent. Power output can be increased by adding more kites to the existing network, leveraging the same ground infrastructure. This offers a clear economy of scale. Furthermore, the potential for aerodynamic benefits from formation flight (similar to drafting) means that power output could scale non-linearly—adding the 100th kite might increase total power more than adding the 10th.

## Recommendation for Industrial Scale

For an industrial-scale AWES capable of generating power comparable to a conventional power plant, the networked model is the only viable path forward.

The unnetworked approach, while conceptually simple, is a dead end due to its prohibitive airspace requirements and poor scalability. It represents a failure to see the system as more than the sum of its parts.

The networked approach, informed by the synthesis of Bifurcation and Network Theory, treats the collection of kites as a single, cohesive “power foil.” It leverages the network connections to achieve emergent stability and allows for dense, scalable power generation. The significant challenges in complex control and preventing cascading failures are the core engineering problems that must be solved, but the potential rewards—a high-density, cost-effective, and scalable renewable energy source—are immense.

Reply from @JoeFaust:

Regarding: "A failure or bifurcation (e.g., a stall or sudden loss of control) in one kite is an isolated event. " Such would only hold if each individual kite is given the necessary wide berth to assure such isolation. However, see that such condition implies a huge inefficiency of land and airspace use; and such is worsened when seeing that a runaway tether under runaway kited wing.

My opinion about Joe’s comment on “A failure or bifurcation (e.g., a stall or sudden loss of control) in one kite is an isolated event.”
This sentence is extracted from the first paragraph titled “Unnetworked AWES: A Collection of Individuals”. This paragraph provides a similar reply in “Density” section.

Overall, the comparison elements seem interesting but not complete.

A scaled-down realization of a functioning networked AWES with a generator would provide much more appraisal elements and highlight advantages and difficulties that we are not aware of: the kite elements of a network will tend to go their own way according to different flight and wind conditions within the same network, which can tend to make the whole system fall unless there is an effective control software, which implies control means for each of the units. Depending how the kite units are placed and how they fly (and in a crosswind or not crosswind way), the control of the set can be possible or not.

Or it can cause the whole thing to fall.

But wind is not predictable anywhere within the network.

Adding more kites leads to the addition of more tether connections, and more tethers going to the ground (possibly via bridles) in order to support the extra load.

Compared to a kite network, perhaps a single giant kite with holes could do the job with less difficulties.

Dave’s answer:

Response: There is a practical unit-kite sail scaling limit of around 1000m2 or less, where thin kite fabric panels can be easily damaged by surface-dragging in a fabric mass of ~200kg or more, although there are possible methods, like air-fluidized beds, to extend this limit. Therefore, unit-kite sails of around 500m2 are fairly robust to ground handling.

A Kite Network can be designed mostly closed or with holes or sparse in any desired ratio of open to closed area. Topologically, the Papillion/Para-Commander parasailing-parachute lineage can be classed as a Kite Network, each panel counting as a network node, and many holes. Algebraic topology can handle Kite Network holes and panels in a unified model basis.

And also (from Dave):

Addressing more of Pierre’s concerns: While there are Kite Network Failure Modes that non-networked kites are not subject to, overall, Networking is a maximally robust AWES scaling strategy, as the Gemini 2.5 Pro emphatically asserts. Kite Network control can be fully collective via ganged control lines. A large network will condition local flow, as any wing does. Individual unit-kites can be passively compliant to local wind disturbance and dissipate disturbance spikes into the network, staying within their load limits.

Perhaps a networked AWES could be based on:

  1. Single unit including holes or spaces, like parachutes and parasails, Mothra arch, Daisy (several blades or kites forming the rotor)
  2. Set of individual kites

A networked AWES could also work as a giant lifter kite, or a giant power kite, as envisaged here.

Existing networked kites or AWES are parachute trains and other kite trains, MAWES, rotary AWES, arches and others.

An alternative method, but aiming to use unnetworked AWES: AWES farm in bumper car mode where collisions between the units would have no serious consequences.

@PierreB, a good rule of thumb for sharing things from others is if you, or preferably a novice, can understand it. The AI response has issues, it was prompted biased material or was prompted in a weird way, but it had some reasoning you could try to deconstruct. I thought of it as a thing you could brainstorm on, so I made it a separate topic.

Maybe Dave tries to do the same, but I am lost. He should work on his reasoning and sourcing. The emphatic * opinion of an * AI. Is uselessness cubed. Maybe just explore one idea. How will a large network condition local flow for example. Have you done simulations of this, how does it affect things, how is it relevant, what previous similar work was done, and so on.

Please don’t repost things like this.

This flailing and untargeted “discussion” harkens back to the earliest days of wannabe AWE musings, that have led nowhere thusfar. Even the most basic aspects are still “up in the air”, with almost nothing having been tried, and still not a single home powered by a kite.

Change of perspective (re-edit).
After a moment of questioning, it appears to me that the two prompts from Dave Santos and the responses from AI provide as clear a picture as possible of the directions that can be followed, thanks to concrete and verifiable elements through additional research.

Interesting comparison.

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Well if you’re going to tie a bunch of animals together

Introducing

flock power

Networked parasails working in yo-yo mode could look like Daisy’s network, the parasails replacing the lifter kites, and also being used without the rotary devices.


The argument in favor of networks could apply in this specific case, to avoid this (for unnetworked AWES):

Trains of parasails could perhaps increase the total swept area.

It is not impossible at first glance to imagine that some parasails or parasail trains are in the power reel-out phase while others are in the depower reel-in phase within the same network, leading to continuous power.

That said, to supply continuous power, several (2 or 3 at a minimum and not much more at a maximum) networks of parasails with offsets may be better suited to provide the reel-out and reel-in phases in the same time. But in that case, a least one parasail for each network, always in action, would be necessary to ensure a minimum of lift during the depower reel-in phases.

There would be several ground stations, but less than for unnetworked parasails.

A sketch:

Networked parasails
An alternative is to bring the units together in networks, to avoid duplicating certain elements such as the main tethers, and to save space. This technique is developed by Dave Santos [27] and Roderick Read [28]. To supply continuous power, several (2 or 3 at a minimum and not much more at a maximum) networks of parasails with offsets may be suited to provide the reel-out and reel-in phases at the same time, leading to a continuous global power. But in that case, a least one parasail for each network, will be always in action to ensure a minimum of lift during the depower reel-in phases. Ground stations can pivot to face the wind direction in a similar way as for other arrangements. Note that during changes in wind direction, the same configuration is achieved by lengthening or shortening the respective pivoting ground station tethers. If necessary, the parasails can be equipped with respective swivels, possibly motorized, to facilitate their positioning face to the wind.
Trains of parasails can be seen as networked parasails but are not used in this configuration: simple parasail units are preferred, being arranged to cover the swept wind space.

(2) (PDF) Parasail-based Airborne Wind Energy System. Available from: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/378970090_Parasail-based_Airborne_Wind_Energy_System [accessed Sep 25 2025].

From Dave, writing “AI agrees that a further hyper-scaling stage is possible, fitting neatly under the 10km upper wind boundary.

I would name it “a network of networks”, or “networked networks”. Concerning Dave’s comment, I would be more cautious about what AI can actually claim. In addition, I know only one way to prove the proper functioning of a kite network: testing it with a generator, in different configurations (lifter kites or tether-aligned (yo-yo mode) or crosswind kites or others).

We know a peer-reviewed publication:

Fig. 21.12 shows an interesting configuration where the kites are placed on the nodes (that I took back), leading to more freedom, in opposition to the kites placed between the nodes.

Another publication:

(3) (PDF) Kite Networks for Harvesting Airborne Wind Energy

This would be a good starting point to compare a network of lifter kites (to begin with) with a set composed of the same but individually tethered kites.

We need to understand how many kites must be tethered to the ground to keep the network well-formed at altitude.

One might think that, proportionally, the number of tethered peripheral kites relative to the total number of kites would decrease as the total number of kites increases.

Then, try to determine from which altitude the kite network could become more advantageous (less total rope length).

Try to identify possible problems: reliability and stability with different winds in the network leading to interferences leading to possible crash, maneuverability…

My experiments were not always successful.

It is interesting to note that in spite of descriptions, we never see kite networks in the kite festivals, except traditional networks like arches and trains.

One can guess that kite networks other than trains and arches are too difficult to implement and maneuver, otherwise, given how long kites have existed, we would have seen some by now.

And if we are now talking about wind energy, we could reach a marginality of a marginality, so a probable dead end.

Dave infomed me that this kite network is his realization, E. Sapir having taken the photo.
Kites are placed on the nodes, which seems more natural. A follow-up to this work would be welcome, for example, with the same kite network, gaining altitude, and connecting one or more generators.