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Just something else to be considered?
Not quite sure how a toroidal prop translates to Awes of Similar nature?
By design it looks like VAWT?
mit labs have looked at these for drone props?
I wonder what you guys think?
Ha ha were you watching the new fan showdown series on Youtube too?
I submitted a 5 blade remix version
Well It cropped up in my feed? I had made a similar design months back sent it to him heard nothing back? sent the stl file some months back? This cropped up? It just looks like the squashed tube function on Tinkercad? Then rotate the blades to require angles? I sent 8 or 12 blade in some point last year? Found it odd? As mine looks vaguely similar? I feel like a demon possessing the other engineering bod? Find it funny people it looks like people try rob from me? I had no idea if anyone had toyed with this before? I wonder if I could get something for my efforts? Could really use it right now? As I donāt know the origins? I wonder if they figure about the source code issue? As every Tinkercad cad file is link to the designer? Glad to of had an impacted if true? He must of made a mint from that stl. File? I wasnāt expecting much at all? When I sent my fan in to the fan showdown?
If I did design it and mit got hold of it? Thats a win in my book! Looks valuable enough to investigate? I wonder how Iād get a credit? Most of the source code canāt be modified? Due the legal stuff? Its like a big no no! Gdpr? It could be convergence thinking? But who knows at this point? Even 1% would do me? That would be modest royalties? Say the businesses using the design earn a few million? 1% it fairly healthy income for someone like me? It mighty strange it landed in my lap? Went away thought nothing of it? Till today? 10k would get me off the state at a time the support is due to collapse? It was along time back when I sent my stl in?
I know Iām open source? But man need bread & butter? 10k would sort me out for 2 years. If it consistent income? Might be much much longer?
My stl.
Borromien rings ( turbine 1).stl (712.6 KB)
Things I do with my boredom?
It donāt occur to me sometimes? I did this as a could I win a prize? I bet that went round discord a few time? Bet hey oh I love fishing the cosmos for answers? Sometimes a few come back? Mine is high solidity. @Rodread funny you mentioned the fan showdown? as been the done that got the T-shirt. So to speak? I can up with what I did due to my interest in esoteric things? The ancients might as well have beaten us all to the punch?
Would be funny to see it as a kite?
But there we go lads life is never simple?
@Freeflying, Your comment is a little difficult to get through. Here is a ChatGPT rewrite that adds the famous Thomas Edison quote, and leaves out some other stuff:
If youāre talking about the Sharrow propeller, thatās perhaps from 2009 a similar or identical idea was already patented in 2009, so it canāt have been copied from you. Here is some discussion: https://www.reddit.com/r/engineering/comments/10pvyx3/toroidal_propellers_a_noisekilling_game_changer/
One quote:
If youāre talking about a reviewer maybe reviewing your idea or something that looks like it, wasnāt that the point of sending it in?
Edit: another discussion: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskEngineers/comments/10wmb0e/how_did_we_just_think_of_toroidal_propellers/
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Fair shout @Windy_Skies!
Definitely convergent thinking on my part!
The point is to throw something out there?
It look like the universe answered?
2009 till now, is a long time not to know?
Much appreciated! Very helpful!
If I know some donāt mess with the military? they mess you up!
Great to know I can come to similar conclusion? without the need to look at terms of paper? Wouldnāt of known what one was? Till very recently? They do say great minds think a like?
Iām out by a hefty margin? Well done that 2009 team! I concede the world is vast as always! Iāve much learn!
I have to laugh a the striking similarities? Even if was was dream weaving? Best return of ideas? Its often where I learn the most? If ever I was looking for directions? Something like that straightened thing out! Fan showdown a great show!
I wonder what happens to all the design he is sent?
As for awes using toroidal blades? Would it make it more suitable for urban environment?
My fan got featured
Excited
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Pretty clean air flow. Well done on the effort!
Another step towards quiet turbines, I suppose?
Any chance of seeing windswept version for Kite turbines?
You even got a good Db.score. I have noticed how tight the airflow was on your design? I wonder with a few tweaks you could get it tighter? For more high density flow? It looked very close to forming a tornado? Not expecting it to Chuck trucks around? But would be amusing to see a kite turbine on the WMD list? If it possible to multiply airflow phenomena? Then maybe a new direction for energy production?
After all you do get rouge waves in the ocean? Tai chi state use the opponents momentum against them. Use the wind to create more wind.
I suspect a boost in efficiency? Somewhere near the theoretical maximum?
If weāre currently able to toy with vortices? Then maybe a shift in turbines design Is possible?
Great job @Rodread! A top 20 position is for great a shout! Well done rod!
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Or should we say Ā«yourĀ» fan? 
Nice work!
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https://youtube.com/@cyclotechgmbh5271
Considering I mentioned a while back the Magnus effect?
Awes copters?
For what I see on the video the CycloTech comprises motors with adjustable pitch blades that are similar to vertical axis rotors placed on a horizontal axis (example Darrieus VAWT). There is no Magnus effect: lift is provided by the pitched blades, not by a whole cylinder-like shape rotating within a flow.
For Magnus effect to occur, there must be a flow (wind or sea current) on the rotating rotor. The Magnus rotor generates positive lift when the flow and the direction of rotation are well adjusted.
A Magnus rotor, like the Flettner rotor, is driven by a motor which consumes a lot of energy.
There are self-rotating rotors that generate Magnus effect like Savonius-like kites (photo below) on a horizontal axis, or Sharp rotor.
Yep fair doos! When I first look at the cyclocar from cycloTech It looked little like?
Or the
Which didnāt seam much different due too the arrangement? So yes see it very different!
It acting more like.
But it more like a rotor wing?
Thing I do when I get disturbed abt. @4am by phone calls? Spiny thing look very similar.
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For those looking for speed controls? This might help out? It also reminds me of the chain driven valve gear on 4-6-2 bulleid Pacificās.
Bit of a long vid but it does go into a deep dive about design? Just to give the basics.
Towards the end, and in the description, he references a study that describes a continuous process that is able to produce orders of magnitudes more graphene. But even here he was able to produce useful amounts.
Tech Ingredients ā Making Graphene could KILL youā¦ but we did it anyway?!
The Next Generation of Ionic Plasma Thrusters (BSI MARK 2) - YouTube
for all those looking at plasmas?
Ewicon of likewise?
mrk2 is here! 4m/s
so would help as an inducer?
i will leave this here for all to enjoy.